[lug] vi/vim again w/ Star Office.......

Charles Morrison cmorrison at info2000.net
Sun Feb 13 21:17:56 MST 2000

On Sat, 12 Feb 2000, you wrote:
> Excuse me for jumping in, this is a little sidetracked....
> I know this is about emacs and vi, but noone ever mentions StarOffice. 
> Just curious, I'm a newbie, how many people are using StarOffice. I 
> just started using it on mine and my girlfriend's Linux boxes. But a 
> friend of mine told me it wouldn't be worth my time. 
> I realize the command-line vs. GUI difference, but is X-windows really 
> that rare among users?? I'm learning C++ right now so command-line is 
> great for that but I prefer GUI (especially Soffice) for everyday 
> living.

X-Windows use is not at all rare among Linux users. What you are talking about
is apples and oranges though. I would NEVER use StarOffice for editing text
files. Not because I don't use SO, I do, but because it's like driving a train
to the grocery store. Yeah, you can get there with it, but why bother dragging
the whole world along with you. I personally use SO when I need to do a WYSIWYG
doc, spreadsheet or presentation.  (I intend to break myself of that though and
use applix). 

I know I'm in the minority, especially in BLUG, but I use joe for text editing.
It's easier for me than vi (Yes I admit it, I like the old wordstar key
bindings) and a whole lot smaller than emacs. Like all other command line based
text editors, it works nicely in an xterm. 

The point here I think is that in UNIX/Linux there are numerous tools for most
any task. Use what you like and works for your situation. 

> John
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Original Message <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<
> On 2/12/00, 4:42:36 PM, Hugh Brown <hugh at math.byu.edu> wrote regarding 
> Re: [lug] vi/vim again:
> > One thing to keep in mind however is that vi is what's available 
> across
> > numerous unices.  I have been disappointed a number of times to find
> > what vim does isn't what vi does on an HP-UX (multi-level undo is the
> > first thing that comes to mind).  Anyway, it doesn't hurt to keep in
> > mind that there is a core set of commands that work everywhere and 
> then
> > there are the niceties that have been added on a per program basis.
> > Hugh
> > Ralf Mattes wrote:
> > >
> > > On Fri, 11 Feb 2000, PC Drew wrote:
> > >
> > > > Before I start writing section 2, was section 1 enough for most
> > > > people?  Is there anything that I should have mentioned?
> > >
> > > One thing i really like in vim is 'v': you can highlight sections
> > > of text and then perform operations on the section. It's not a
> > > standard vi feature but it often is easier than typing complicated
> > > range commands.
> > >
> > >  Ralf
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Chuck Morrison
VA Linux Systems - Western Area 
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