[lug] no cable access, what about DSL?
winrip at speakeasy.org
Wed Mar 8 17:49:52 MST 2000
Well before you do anything, I'd suggest going to dslreports.com and reading up
on some of the providers and services. It may answer alot of questions.
On Wed, 08 Mar 2000, you wrote:
> I've only been watching this list for a couple of weeks, and _finally_ I
> think I may have something to contribute to the list *sigh*.
> I got DSL a little over a year ago from USWest (it may have been longer
> ago, I don't remember) , and received a Cisco 675 with it. As a result,
> any insight refers only to that setup. (BTW, I can agree with all of the
> frustrations with USWest, the only helpful guys I could find when I was
> setting it up were in Arizona). At any rate, the Cisco has 2 'modes',
> bridging and PPP. As far as I can tell, the only thing your computer sees
> on the other side of it is 'normal' ethernet communications (i.e., what
> your NIC wants to see) . I required no additional drivers, but did need to
> set the Cisco up from my computer, which is a simple com port connection,
> so I don't see any problems using it with a LINUX box.
> What mode you use will be dependent on your ISP - i.e., I use WebAccess
> and have the modem in bridging mode, but when I first got my service, it
> was only working with USWest (go figger) and used PPP.
> Finally, when I installed RedHat 6.1 (first linux install, so go easy on
> me *grin*), I had some problems with the DHCP client (pump) which was
> easily fixed by using dhcpd instead. The long and short is that the DHCP
> client is the _only_ thing that needed attention.
> I hope this was at least a little helpful,
> On Tue, 7 Mar 2000, Aaron Hayden wrote:
> > Here's something that may answer your questions Michael,
> > http://www.control-escape.com/dsl.html. Found it with a quick Google
> > search.
> > Another option is AT&T DSL.
> > (http://www.ipservices.att.com/ipaccess/dsl/index.html) They offer symmetric
> > DSL versus USWEST's ADSL. I just wanted to let everyone know because SDSL
> > availability has a greater radius than ADSL. AT&T offers speeds of 384 Kbps
> > and 768 Kbps for the cheap option (one IP).
> > By the way, I don't subscribe to DSL because I'm just too damn far away. If
> > anyone from USWEST pays attention to this list: Get on the ball and roll out
> > the service to 55th and Baseline.
> > -Aaron Hayden
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: lug-admin at lug.boulder.co.us [mailto:lug-admin at lug.boulder.co.us]On
> > > Behalf Of Michael J. Hammel
> > > Sent: Tuesday, March 07, 2000 4:50 PM
> > > To: Boulder Linux User's Group
> > > Subject: [lug] no cable access, what about DSL?
> > >
> > >
> > > The cable service to my apartment doesn't support cable modems, so I have
> > > to go with some form of DSL. What are my options here? I've looked at
> > > USWest's page, though it goes out of its way to say they don't support
> > > Linux (which doesn't suprise me - they barely support POTS). I've also
> > > looked at Covad, Jato and Rhythms. All of them appear to be able to
> > > support DSL to my home (probably all through US West, unfortunately).
> > >
> > > How does this external modem work? I mean, once I get it, I plug it into
> > > the phone line (and add those microfilters to my voice lines) and then
> > > run an RJ45 from the modem into a NIC in my Linux box, right? I
> > > turn on the
> > > modem, and I'm online? The modem, I take it, acts as a router?
> > > What kind
> > > of NICs can I expect from any of these services? Is there a DSL HOWTO or
> > > is this really pretty straight forward? I'm just paranoid about ordering
> > > the service only to find some stupid Windows specific crap that
> > > won't work.
> > > I don't have any Windows stuff ("...and it'll be a cold day, blah
> > > blah"), so I
> > > can't boot into Windows to configure the modem, if thats one of the
> > > requirements. Is configuring the modem necessary? If so, how do you
> > > configure the modem? Telnet into it?
> > >
> > > After this, I guess I can then set up my Linux box with
> > > firewalling and as a
> > > gateway for the rest of my home LAN. Can someone tell me if this is about
> > > right. Also, let me know if you have any preferences with DSL providers.
> > > If I go with USWest I can stick to my ISP (Dimensional), but I
> > > know some folks
> > > here have gone with Flashcom and Peak2Peak (I think thats their name).
> > > --
> > > Michael J. Hammel The Graphics Muse
> > > mjhammel at graphics-muse.org
> > > http://www.graphics-muse.com
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