[lug] So now we're a bunch of communists, eh?

Chris M chrism at peakpeak.com
Mon Jul 31 15:43:05 MDT 2000

Is there *any* chance at all this discussion could move to
alt.political.opensource.whogivesaratsass ?

Or at least, turn up the Linux-specific content?  Puleeze?


> From: Glenn Ashton <gfa at idiom.com>
> Reply-To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us
> Date: Mon, 31 Jul 2000 14:39:36 -0700 (PDT)
> To: lug at lug.boulder.co.us
> Subject: Re: FW: [lug] So now we're a bunch of communists, eh?
> On Mon, 31 Jul 2000, Franklin R. Jones wrote:
>> :) well it *is* communistic, but the "pure form" as Marx envisioned,
>> not the dictatorship form that is the thought of when the term is
>> used. Russian (didn't), North Korea, and China do not practice
>> communism, they have dictatorial governments that use the communistic
>> mantra to deceive the people in to thinking it is for their own good.
> The "pure form" of communism is to political systems what Windows 2000 is
> to operating systems.  It's a marketing ploy to get lots of people to
> accept what seems to be a good idea that will meet everyone's needs.  Only
> problem is, once it gets installed, it kills all the idealists, and
> proceeds to crash continually and reveal all sorts of innovative features
> like wholesale murder and repression in the case of "Marxism" and the
> destruction of competition and choice in the case of Windows (obviously
> the Marxists were much worse than Bill Gates).
> Both are terrible to install once they infect your operating environment
> and require frequent "5 year plans" to maintain.
> Communism/Marxism/Leninism as an ideology is responsible for more
> bloodshed than any other philosophy or religion.  The wonderful legacy of
> wholesale slaughter from Russia to China to the Killing Fields of Cambodia
> really makes me want the "pure form".  Just like I want the "pure form" of
> Windows 2000.
> The open source community really is about freedom.  It is more libertarian
> than any other community.  Why? Because people participate freely and
> without being threatened.  They do so to pursue their own interests, even
> if that interest is helping people.
> Trying to tag Linux with the term "communist" ought to be as objectionable
> as calling us National Socialists.  Mr. Ballmer's comments were not meant
> to be complimentary, I can assure you.
> Now to change the subject, I think in the community spirit, would anyone
> like to join in and do another Mini-expo like we did last year at CU?
> -Glenn Ashton
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