[lug] residential T1

B. Allyn ballyn at catacom.com
Mon Aug 7 20:14:33 MDT 2000

The Coop is not terribly proactive about bandwidth (they've had the same
DS3s for a long time, now, I believe), but I haven't noticed that they
oversubscribe a great deal (except by weighting towards that damn BBN pipe,
which sucks).

Someone mentioned Rockynet as a T-1 provider; that's who we use. They have a
DS3 into the Coop, as well as a DS3 to C&W, and a newly installed DS3 into

The difference between Rockynet and the Coop is that the Coop is, well, a
co-op, while Rockynet is an ISP. Currently, the Coop is showing $810 for the
first year of T-1 connectivity, plus a $500 setup, plus the $100 yearly
membership fee. That doesn't include the circuit, which will run about
$150-300 a month, as well as the routers, which are expensive.

Rockynet's currently listing $450/month for a T-1. You'll still have to buy
the circuit and the routers, though.

They also have a POP somewhere near Gunbarrel that they can terminate T-1s
at for those folks out there far away from the CO.

Now, if you can just get everyone in the condo-park to sign on and run cat-5
in through your window...

Good luck,
B. Allyn

on 8/7/00 2:17 AM, Sean Reifschneider at jafo at tummy.com wrote:

>> Also, if you go the Co-Op route, make them GUARANTEE you a throughput
>> rating to somewhere UPSTREAM.  If you've ever seen their MRTG graphs
>> from their routers, you'll know why I say that.  Their pipes are
> I've seen their MTRG graphs and the coop seems to be VERY good about
> proactively getting bandwidth.  Considering that they're mostly installing
> DS3s, and those can take months of negotiations, they seem to do a
> pretty good job of it, but that usually means that by the time one
> DS3 is in they're starting the process for ordering another one.
> Of the ISPs in the area, the COOP is most likely to be able to give
> you bandwidth and lots of it, unless you start going for the big
> national backbone providers charging (as I understand it) around
> 3 to 5 times the cost.

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