[lug] residential T1

Nate Duehr nate at natetech.com
Wed Aug 9 02:13:47 MDT 2000

Thanks for the offer, I was merely curious about the costs on them, but
they sound like a lot of fun and useful for many applications.

At work, our shop is so Cisco-minded they wouldn't know what a Linux
router could even do, let alone ever think one might be necessary...

My latest interest/addiction is reading about various (not in Denver)
mailing lists and web sites dedicated to the engineers building wireless
ISP's.  Amazing what they're doing with cheap hardware, and the folks
doing the engineering of most of the companies doing this seem to be the
highly intelligent type who don't mind tinkering with Linux/BSD machines
to do stuff like direct T1 connections, etc... power consumption and
overall capital costs seem to drive them to, shall we say, "interesting"
solutions sometimes.

The folks on those lists would probably buy up your extra card in a
heartbeat if you really want to get rid of it!  :)

Anyway, I'm wondering how many folks on this list have ever used or
played with wireless net access of any kind... what were your

On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 01:14:25PM -0600, Sean Reifschneider wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 08, 2000 at 01:04:05PM -0600, Nate Duehr wrote:
> >Cool -- I keep seeing the WAN cards section doing kernel builds, but never
> >met anyone who actually HAD one!  :)
> >What do they cost?
> The one with the built-in CSU/DSU (meaning you can plug the T1 directly into
> it) is around $900.  The one without is around $600, IIRC, but an external
> CSU/DSU will cost you around $600, and you won't be able to pull line stats
> directly on the Linux box without additional work.
> We've got a spare one here, we could make you a deal on.  Oh, I also have
> an Intel router that I'd sell you for $200 -- it requires a CSU/DSU though.
> Nice thing about a stand-alone router is that you don't have to take it down
> when doing maintenance on your firewall -- may or may not be an issue for
> you.  The Intel router is pretty nice, it even does NAT and you can stick
> a PCMCIA modem in it for a dial backup line.
> We've had mixed success with the Sangoma cards.  One has been working great
> for a couple of years now (after a somewhat painful install), the other
> one we never could get to work (possibly because of router problems on the
> ISP end, but it was made more difficult because it was halfway across the
> country from us).
> Emerging Technologies also makes T1 cards, but I recommend against them.
> I've had nothing but trouble from both their products and their customer
> support.
> Sean
> -- 
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> Sean Reifschneider, Inimitably Superfluous <jafo at tummy.com>
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