[[lug] DSL, static IPs and the hunt for red october.]

Duke Smith duke at firstworld.net
Fri Aug 25 07:45:14 MDT 2000

I was referring to earlier discussion in which people were telling of
$15 / yr. (or maybe mo.) for 5 IP@'s, above & beyond any "usual" ISP
provided services. This amounts to $768 per 256 (a class-C block),
the usual charge for which is $35 / yr. Hence, ((768 / 35) * 100) ->
minus 100% -> ~2,094% markup above & beyond the usual & customary
retail service charge of $35. The rates you mention below, $15/mo for 8,
amount to  $760 / yr. , which, by the same calculation relative to the
U&C fannual fee of ($35 / 256) / yr. , amounts to 576,000% of the U&C
rental fee above & beyond any other ISP services.Multi-thousand percent
markups, in the same sense as one with $2,000,000 is called a
(generally, not us, but ISP stockholders). Hence, your comments are, as you

 intimate below, (inimitably) superfluous.

Sean Reifschneider wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 04:21:51PM -0600, Duke Smith wrote:
> >I respectfully disagree: the ISP's do have a choice, they could act
> >in good conscience. They do have a choice not to gouge people
> >with multi-thousand percent markups. A smack dealer in New York
> Multi-thousand percent markups?!?  You obviously have a very different
> view of ISPs than I do.  The ISP market is a commodity market, I can't
> think of anything an ISP does that has even a single 10x markup.  ISPs
> don't get IPs for free, and when you add the management of the IP
> network on top of that I would be suprised if there were even a 2x
> markup in IPs most providers offer.  With allocation, management,
> routing, reverse DNS, it's hardly free.
> $5/month for a static IP or $15/month for a block of 8 I don't see as
> being that unreasonable.  My problem with USWest was that they would
> only sell blocks of 8, which meant for 12 addresses I had to get 3
> blocks (5 usable per block).
> Sean
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