[[lug] DSL, static IPs and the hunt for red october.]

Duke Smith duke at firstworld.net
Sat Aug 26 23:29:28 MDT 2000

I'm not paying that astronomical price. That's what kicked off
this thoroughly entertaining flame war.  People on the list were
talking about paying $15/mo for 5 IP@'s, and I responded that
all it costs me is $35/yr, because I registered them 5 years ago.
So, claims by various netarsonists to the effect that I was claiming
you could do that today are, shall we say,disingenuous.

I'm well aware of the costs infolved in setting up and servicing ISP
accounts, but I wasn't talking about that, merely registration costs
for the DN & C-block.

BTW, I've never heard of anyone smoking heroin. Is it a good high?

Nate Duehr wrote:

> On Thu, Aug 24, 2000 at 04:21:51PM -0600, Duke Smith wrote:
> > I respectfully disagree: the ISP's do have a choice, they could act
> > in good conscience. They do have a choice not to gouge people
> > with multi-thousand percent markups. A smack dealer in New York
> > wouldn't live a week if [s]he tried a stunt like that.
> Could you be more specific?
> Most ISP's are not "gouging" ... have you seen the real numbers on what
> it takes to do high-quality connectivity for an ISP these days?
> Telco charges for DS-3's/OC-3's, ISP Charges from backbone carriers, the
> cost of decent routing gear (seen how much a Cisco 6509 or 7206VXR
> costs?), costs of the assorted servers to support services (well, Linux
> helps a TON on this part... GRIN), someone to cable it all up, connect
> it all... you get the idea.
> Explain which service you're paying for that costs as much as that smack
> you're smokin', and we'll talk!  :)
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