[lug] Traceroute question

Carl.Wagner at Level3.com Carl.Wagner at Level3.com
Wed Dec 13 17:37:14 MST 2000

Sean Reifschneider wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 13, 2000 at 04:35:04PM -0700, D. Stimits wrote:
> >passengers would win the effectiveness...throughput. DSL 114kb is only a
> >measure of throughput; it downloads large amounts of data quickly, but a
> >small data packet on DSL might suck compared to a small packet on ISDN,
> >or even a 56k modem.
> Much of the latencies with a modem come from the modulation, demodulation,
> and other latencies involved with turning the actual bytes to send into
> the sounds that get transmitted over the phone lines.  Things like how
> long it takes to fill up the error detection and correction buffers and
> all that...  That old "9 women can have a baby in one month" thing.
> A 53k modem can send 53000 bits in a second, but it can't send one
> bit in 1/53,000th of a second.
> IDSL should have comperable latencies to ISDN and DSL -- 200ms is definitely
> unusual.  Van Jacobson believes that humans start noticing lag at around
> 400ms -- that's halfway there...
> Sean
> --
>  Bush says the election should be finished soon for the good of the people.
>  He's 350,000 popular votes behind, why doesn't he concede?
> Sean Reifschneider, Inimitably Superfluous <jafo at tummy.com>
> tummy.com - Linux Consulting since 1995. Qmail, KRUD, Firewalls, Python

Because the Electoral College.  If we did not have that then we would be
having 51 of
these contests.  And we might have a president by early 2003.

It is call the rule of law.  

If you played 10 baseball games and got 10 runs in only one game, and your
opponent got one
run in each game who won more games?  Why doesn't any one have a problem with


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