[lug] Cutting and Pasting..

D. Stimits stimits at idcomm.com
Fri Mar 2 19:02:44 MST 2001

Viggy wrote:
> Unfortunately, I don't believe that a solution exists.  On the Windows
> platforms, "cutting and pasting" to a "system" buffer is build into the Win
> API, and every Windows program immediately started using it.  So, you have
> one common area to store basically anything you want (text, graphics, user
> defined things too).  Applications can query the clipboard to see what is
> currently in the buffer, and decide at that time whether they want to allow
> pasting of the buffer (i.e. Notepad does not allow you to paste graphic
> objects into files, therefore if there are graphics in the clipboard,
> Notepad ignores your request to paste).
> About the only thing that comes close on UNIX is the middle mouse
> button.  And I've only seen that work for straight text.

Yes, the OLE server becomes active by inheriting from the right
services. Unfortunately, it also means other complications (I once found
a flaw in the generated GUID's, that caused it to switch GUID in the
middle of an application, causing it to crash and burn; once MS
acknowledged it, they cut off all communications with my company and
would no longer answer calls).

> Viggy
> John Hernandez wrote:
>  >
>  > Amen.  I'm constantly frustrated by this, too.  Most of the time, when I
> don't need to hold things in the buffer for very long, I just use the
> highlight + middle button to paste trick.  But cut/copy/paste buffers seem
> far from consistent between apps.  I guess the problem stems from the basic
> UNIX philosophy of freedom to choose toolkits and so forth.  Both a
> blessing and a curse.  I won't even attempt to propose a solution.  Sigh...
>  >
>  > Andrew Reberry wrote:
>  > >
>  > > I have a gripe.  I would like a solution, but I do have a gripe...
>  > >
>  > > In general, I find it very difficult to cut and paste between
>  > > applications.  Be it a lack of standards, but it seems that a lot of
>  > > programs do not want to "work" together.
>  > >
>  > > Some programs use ALT-V and ALT-C key combinations, others use CTRL-X
>  > > and CTRL-C.  Yet other programs use CTRL-C and CTRL-V.  I even believe
>  > > I've used CTRL-Insert and SHIFT-Insert as well.  This is half the
>  > > problem.  Why not the same keys, and why should I have to remember "Oh,
>  > > I'm in this program and thus must use the CTRL-V key combo.
>  > >
>  > > The second part of the problem is what I find to be incompatible
>  > > applications...
>  > >
>  > > Say I cut something out of Opera using CTRL-C.  I then want to paste it
>  > > into netscape composer using ALT-V. The problem though is that what I
>  > > cut out of Opera is not being pasted into Netscape.  Instead something
>  > > I cut yesterday is being placed into Netscape.   I can't even get these
>  > > two applications to talk to each other when cutting and pasting.
>  > >
>  > > To me this is very poor and unacceptable.  As I said, I would not mind
>  > > answers, but as I see it any solution is simply a workaround to the
>  > > problem.
>  > >
>  > > Andrew
>  > > reberrya at colorado.edu
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