[lug] Weird glibc upgrade problem

Michael J. Pedersen marvin at keepthetouch.org
Wed Mar 21 19:23:30 MST 2001

On Wed, Mar 21, 2001 at 06:05:27PM -0700, Justin wrote:
> This is basically in response to everyone that replied to this original 
> post. I was actually wondering how exactly other programs relied on 
> glibc. Now I know, and obviously explains why most everything was 
> broken. I know you're are supposed to use the upgrade procedure when 
> using rpm but we did try that originally. All that kept happening was a 
> bunch of dependency errors and we could never get it to go thru 
> correctly. That is was brought up the idea of removing then re-
> installing glibc (obviously a bad idea). I had problems upgrading the 
> glibc on one of my redhat boxes a while back too. I did use the upgrade 
> flags but it still complained about dependencies, eventually I got it 
> to work but it was such a pain. I just don't get how redhat can put up 
> these upgrades to packages and just say rpm -Uvh them and you're all 
> set. I rarely am able to do just that without any catches or problems 
> that have to be worked out. Maybe I'm just not doing something right 
> but rpm's have always given me trouble...

Just so you know, even though I finished with something along the lines
'Always use the upgrades for your package manager', I neglected to mention
that rpm is incredibly difficult to use correctly for that. I know of
extremely few people (I think all of them are on this list, too), who can
actually do that with rpm, and get it to work right.

To me, it's a failing of the tools which surround rpm. They're not well enough
known by people who don't use them to make upgrades a viable option, which is
a shame. anyway, I would like to apologize again if I came across harshly
(which I'm sure I did). It really was unintentional.

But, the bright side of things: You learned something useful today :)

Michael J. Pedersen
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