[lug] linux firewall, popup windows spam blocking

D. Stimits stimits at attbi.com
Tue Jun 24 00:04:50 MDT 2003

Bear Giles wrote:

> D. Stimits wrote:
> > Bear Giles wrote:
> > I've been told that the companies that sell spam lists are now selling
> > spam software to use popups to directly trespass on machines. In this
> > case, www.byebyeads.com is essentially doing a criminal trespass to
> > directly invade the user's machine, and paste a note that says if y ou
> > pay them their software fee (extortion money), that they will stop
> > attacking the machine. I call it an attack because it has caused
> > machine lockup and failure multiple times in the last day or two.
> Have you contacted the state Attorney General?  Maybe nothing will come
> of it, maybe the AG is looking for a test case for popup spam and their
> message is so poorly phrased that they can piggyback it on a basic
> extortion charge.
>  > ask that it
> > become an official criminal trespass to invade a port on a machine
> > after being specifically requested to stop doing so.
> Don't hold your breath for that one.
> The problem is illustrated by your own problem.  Let's say you set up a
> firewall rule such that any popup message from them triggers a standard
> email cease&desist order send back to them.
> So they order you to make on further attempts to send them email, on
> penalty of criminal trespass charge.  Yet they continue to send you
> popup spam.  Now what do you do?
> We all see a huge difference between sending out something from a
> spamming list and responding to an intrusion, but how do you codify that
> into law?  It's a lot harder than you might think, and if it's not done
> right the solution may be worst than the problem.

I do plan to figure out exactly how to stop this, to publish it, and to 
send a complaint to government contacts (which could include an attorney 
general). These people are not emailing a public email server, they are 
directly entering my machine through a microsoft vulnerability and 
crashing it, causing loss of data.

D. Stimits, stimits AT attbi DOT com

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