[lug] Old Unix, was Re: SGI Onyx 2

Carl Wagner Carl.Wagner at verbalworld.com
Wed Mar 31 22:44:16 MDT 2010

Or you could get UNIX v32, with source, for the VAX and run it under SIMH!
It would probably be similar (as lame as) PC/IX.

My notes about this:
    running unix 32v under Linux using simh
       get simh and build it (for some reason the Ubuntu package did not 
install the binaries).

       get the zip file from 
       (He has some sparse instructions for getting it running under SIMH.)

I played with it for a little while, but it did not have vi and I didn't 
feel like learning ed.
It does have a compiler (K&R) and a lot of the standard utilities (but 
not vi, less, and many of the things I use).
But it boots in less than one second!!

Anyone know were to get an old version of vi that will compile under 32V?


Jeffrey Haemer wrote:
> Maxwell,
> Happy to loan out my disks.   I haven't looked at them in years, but 
> I'm sure they're five-and-a-quarter-inch floppies.  PC/IX will drive a 
> color monitor -- not a trivial statement, since most monitors back 
> then were B&W-only.
>     You couldn't do a lot with Unix back then (no X, no 3D, no easy ipv4)
>     but you could do things.. right?
> Does "make a living" count?   And that was even before everyone 
> switched to nfs4. :-)
> INTERACTIVE Systems Corporation was the first commercial UNIX vendor 
> (1977).  Our first customer was a law firm that wanted our 
> word-processing facilities, which included the INed screen editor (a 
> technology invented, independently, by Edgar T. Irons and Bill Joy), 
> and a formatter (nroff/troff with Ted Dolotta's -mm macro package). 
>  The two, along with tools like a spell-checker (spell(1)) were 
> marketed as INtext.   Both Irons and Dolotta were VPs of ISC.
> We also had a block-mode terminal (INterm), designed by Charles 
> Minter, a student of Carver Mead's, which had a bunch of INed in 
> firmware, which let our systems support a lot more users doing 
> text-processing than they could have otherwise.
> Another early customer was Wells Fargo Bank, I suspect for the same 
> reason.
> Plus, Ken Thompson made it possible to run Spacewar if you got bored, 
> though I don't think our distro came with a port.
> By 1983, when I joined them, someone at IBM had decided to provide 
> Unix on their exciting, new powerhouse, the PC/XT -- the first 
> mass-market personal computer with a Winchester (hard) disk.    (I 
> think the XT was as powerful as a PDP-11/20, FWIW.)   
> They hired ISC to do the work, since they didn't have anyone who knew 
> anything about UNIX.  For that matter, neither did anyone else.
> As an aside, the same piece of hardware motivated a major change in 
> their flagship microcomputer operating system, PC-DOS (MS-DOS): 
> subdirectories (folders).  Ten megabytes was so much storage that it 
> no longer made sense to try to keep all your files in the same directory.
> -- 
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