[lug] password generating techniques

John Vonachen john.vonachen at gmail.com
Wed Mar 21 09:01:18 MDT 2012

// random.org uses atmospheric noise to generate random numbers

// in PHP:
// get a new secret code from random.org
$curl = curl_init();
curl_setopt($curl, CURLOPT_RETURNTRANSFER, 1);
curl_setopt($curl, CURLOPT_URL, '
$newSecretCode = curl_exec($curl);

On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 8:48 AM, Davide Del Vento <
davide.del.vento at gmail.com> wrote:

> > /dev/random?
> Are you serious or are you kidding? (sorry, this sounds like
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe%27s_law )
> If you are kidding, fine :-D
> If you are serious, you missed the point. The discussion here is how
> can I *remember* tens if not hundreds of these passwords, not how can
> I generate them. Since I cannot remember them all, I see the following
> options:
> 1) use weaker passwords, easier to remember
> 2) use a single strong password, shared among all the services I use
> 3) use a (mental) algorithm to generate site-specific passwords from a
> single strong one
> 4) use a password manager like Kevin suggested
> 5) use something like OPLOP
> 6) write the strong passwords on a piece of paper
> Of course 1) and 2) are bad, you don't need me to tell you why. 3)
> could be ok, but being "mental" it must be easy and thus it can be
> easy to crack and it is only security by obscurity. I replied to Kevin
> with my objections to 4) so I won't repeat myself. It looks like 5) is
> the best choice, but I had the questions with which I started this
> thread. Option 6) adds the physical security problem to the computer
> security problem, and add the inconvenience of transporting this piece
> of paper with me at all the time in a secure manner.
> Cheers,
> Davide
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