[lug] web site advice needed

karl horlen horlenkarl at yahoo.com
Tue Sep 3 16:13:46 MDT 2013

my experience is that wordpress and drupal both give content creators the ease of an admin panel to allow them to create site content in a "relatively" seamless manner once the site is setup.

however, there is ongoing maintenance that needs to be performed once running: regular updates and backups.  so the gotcha is that the seamless user experience is never completely decoupled from the admin part of running the site.  which sort of defeats the ease of use benefits as pitched to the end user, unless of course you never do updates or backups ;)

security isn't so much of an issue if:

a) you set it up correctly in the first place (admin duties come into play)
b) you perform updates

though as someone mentioned:

c) how the site is hosted in shared environments can make security more of an issue.  in most shared enviornments there's not much you can do about this.  it's a cost benefit scenario.  if you want security you need to host yourself imho which is going to cost more money and require more time.   

regarding performance:

i've found that most people often overthink performance issues.   everybody has visions of transforming the world with their websites.  most of these OSS cms's run on php and mysql (and postgres if you want it) and most shared environments can probably handle your requirements these days unless you're serving up lots of heavy (video / graphic) content or the provider sucks big time.

if and when you get some credible traffic, you can address performance at that time.

that's  just my two cents

From: Davide Del Vento <davide.del.vento at gmail.com>

To: Boulder (Colorado) Linux Users Group -- General Mailing List <lug at lug.boulder.co.us> 
>Sent: Tuesday, September 3, 2013 2:50 PM
>Subject: Re: [lug] web site advice needed
>> My experience hasn't mirrored yours. I suppose "painless" is a relative
>> term.
>For me "painless" in this context is something that (among other
>things) I can do in my spare time. Which means sometimes I have the
>time, and sometimes I haven't. I won't feel good to say to my friends
>or family: no I can't go out to dinner with you because I have to fix
>this broken website.
>In hindsight and for me, that project clearly was not something that
>should have been done as a spare time project. To contrast it with
>something concrete: studying and doing homeworks meeting the deadlines
>for coursera.org classes is perfectly fine as a spare time project,
>mainly because the schedule is known in advance, I can plan
>accordingly and what I do doesn't end up in a "broken" status
>(super-worse case I don't meet the deadline, don't pass the final and
>will get another chance a few months later). Not to mention relations
>with others (e.g. forum posters or website readers) waiting for me to
>fix something. With the blog/forum, you don't know how many people
>will show up and when, same with security issues, same with hosting
>problems, etc. You might get lucky or not. And Murphy's law guarantees
>that you'll be unlucky when your available spare time is the least.
>But if your spare time is quantitatively and qualitatively good and
>comes in regular, abundant intervals, maybe that's good enough for
>Good luck,
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